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to LEGO factory : You are not being fair.
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Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:36:13 GMT
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Dear LEGO Factory...

I couldn’t find any contact info on the LEGO factory web site, so I am posting this message here.

Week 1’s winner?

You have pronounced the “Senior winner” of the contest’s first week, yet this person has clearly cheated, as well as has violated the rules of the competition.

He/she violated the rules:
This model was built on a base greater than 16x16. This simply and clearly violates the terms of the contest. Why was it allowed to even compete? Allowing entries that do not meet the terms of the contest will only encourage people to do whatever they want.

He/she has clearly cheated:
The model’s upload image was corrupted for 4 days. (And I feel bad for this person! No one would vote for a model they can’t see.) But after no votes at all for 2 days, 150 votes were instantly collected on this model, while the model was still unviewable! 93 more votes came in before the image was fixed. Then it grabbed about 100 new votes. Tell me, why would only 100 people like it when they can see it, if 243 people liked it when it was garbled?

And consider that the 2nd place model (the container ship, our rightful winner) collected only about 200 votes in all, and those votes were obtained slowly and incrementally, just like everyone else’s.

Please look at your web server logs. Who voted on this creation? Was it someone who created a whole bunch of accounts over & over? The IP addresses would be the same. Did they write a script or a robot? Maybe the votes came in hundredths of seconds apart from each other. This cannot be tolerated, or else it will spread and infect the contest as others begin doing the same.


You need to strip the winner of their status and award the prize to the second-place contestant. Send a message: “obey the rules.”


Week 2 : Where are my models?

I uploaded two models last night. They’ve been moderated. They are marked in the “My Models” area as entries for the 2nd week’s contest. But they have not appeared anywhere in the competition gallery, even though voting has begun! How can I compete fairly if my models don’t show up alongside everyone else’s for just as long as theirs do?


Play well ; be fair

I would like to think that we can have have a fair, fighting chance at competing in this contest. It’s bad enough that the structure of your web site promotes an unfair “rich get richer” voting system (please see the e-mail I sent via Jake last week for my analysis on this and the solutions I proposed ) ; But if you are not even going to administer the contest fairly, I can’t see how why I should bother wasting my time competing.

I love the LEGO product, and it would be a great honor to see one of my designs sold as an actual LEGO toy. But how can we model builders even attempt to compete against each other if we are, instead, competing against your software, your poorly designed web site, and your disregard to enforce the rules?

Please make every attempt you can to fix these problems and make the competition fair.

Sean
http://www.mocpages.com/home.php/1



Message has 5 Replies:
  Re: to LEGO factory : You are not being fair.
 
(...) Another mix-up I've observed is many under-13 entries in the Senior category. (I didn't check to see if there were over-12 entries in the Junior category). Personally, I'm still waiting on the fix for the garbled images, both within LDD and on (...) (20 years ago, 22-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: to LEGO factory : You are not being fair.
 
(...) Ditto! I inadverdently uploaded an entry that exceeds the 16x16 limitation, but there is no mechanism for me to retract the entry, nor is there a mechanism to make sure it is disqualified. Yes, it's actually important to make sure it's (...) (20 years ago, 23-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)
  Re: to LEGO factory : You are not being fair.
 
It does look like the week 1 winner that violated the size rule and at least seemingly the voting system was removed. The container ship is currently listed as the week 1 winner. Bruce (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)  
  Re: to LEGO factory : You are not being fair.
 
(...) Ouch. Did TLC hire Diebold? :^) - John Ladasky (20 years ago, 24-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego)
  Re: to LEGO factory : You are not being fair.
 
(...) Snip - (...) It appears this issue has not been dealt with. Now is the beginning of Week 3, and I'm feeling the same pain. It does look like your models did get added eventually, Sean, so there's hope for mine. But there's definitely a penalty (...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.lego, FTX)

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